Joy o’ Kanji features fun, photo-filled essays to help you learn Joyo kanji, written by Eve Kushner, author of ‘Crazy for Kanji’ and ‘Kanji Curiosity.’. How To Learn the 2,+ Joyo Kanji in 97 Days Kanji is the third of the three pillars of the Japanese writing system (the other two being hiragana and. I already answered a similar question in another thread, so I will post it again here. The answer is quite long, however be sure to read through all of it, as it.

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Asking “How do I learn Japanese? Archived from the original on 3 March Another reason to ignore the list.

kajji I did however read in some article that starting with this reform they will be revising kanji policies more often in reaction to the quick pace of change of kanji usage in the information age. The point of them is not to teach the language but make sure the important parts of the language for further education are included of parts of the language that are important for cultural reasons and scientific jiyo.

I think that would be useful for creating most of a list, but it seems that some kanji might have been included for different reasons, regardless of their frequency. Every word that is forced into obscurity just because it includes a kanji that joyoo not on the jouyou list is a loss for the Japanese language. Of course, the Joyo list isn’t a literal book, but the idea of maintaining a “critical” vocabulary still applies.

I was wondering if you knew how much of the kanji for the JLPT is from the Jouyou Kanji or if jojo test on commonly used kanji not found on the list.


Still, point taken, my “issue” is rather pointless in the end, it’s one different consonant. We don’t know a whole lot about the process behind choosing what kanji go into the Joyo list, but I would say it’s rife with bureaucratic nonsense. Nothing more, nothing less. Welcome to Reddit, the front page of the internet. Consider the OP’s skill level when answering a question.

I could care less what they do with the jouyou kanji list. The important number you should be paying attention to is 10, for vocabulary. I think the point was that a lot of kanji included in Joyo are there because of their frequency in names.

No school or textbook will ever teach you everything. They definitely continue to learn more kanji.

The Jouyou Kanji

This is kanmi the full list of rules. The Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Ministry instructed teachers to start teaching the new characters in fiscalso that junior high school students would be able to read them and high school students would be able to write them. I think their motives are well founded. Retrieved 1 February So far I have read 10 volumes of Kino no Tabi and I am now at volume 2 of Kanjj to Koushinryou to improve my reading skills.

Submit a new link. I would rather compare the Joyo list to something like an “abridged” pocket English dictionary.

Instead, I read, read, and just read while picking up whatever kanji lies in the way. Which grades get which new characters I wonder….

What kind of crap list were we using all these years?

I’m not sure what you kxnji by “as a foreigner, the only way to lean them is through media”? I actually like the jouyou list and glad they cared enough to revise it some.

Jouyou kanji is just how far schools are supposed to teach children kanji up until the end of middle school. I realize the importance of context, of course, so I try to read and listen to real Japanese as much as possible. Yes but that joyyo the same pronounciation. Want to add to the discussion?

2136 Jōyō Kanji by Grade

Isn’t that THE only way to learn the language as a foreigner, unless you literally go to japan knowing nothing and somehow learn everything without absorbing any media. In my opinion, the worst problem with the list is that it fools innocent learners such as you and I into thinking we should use it somehow in our studies.

Use furigana if you think they won’t understand your kanji usage. Three years later, there was news as recently as last month of a tentative list to be released in February of New to the sub? I personally use the list to try to be thorough in learning all the kanji. None of the questions ask you anything about a single Kanji in Heisig style. Please also read the full list of rules on the wiki.

Furigana To create furigana in your posts, use the following syntax: By the way, Mizuumi wrote up a Polish translation of this post here: